Homosexuality and Creation of God

Most gay people claim that they are homosexuals for as long as they can remember. They didn't choose to be homosexuals...But they were Born that way.

However... Many Conservative Christians Believe that gay people must not get married because they believe that marriage is a Union of A MAN and A WOMAN which can lead to procreation and continue the human race.
They use The most Common Phrase like:

They say that homosexuality is wrong because God created man and woman.

So, what about Hermaphrodite people and Intersex people?
without surgery, who were they allowed to marry?

More over procreation is no more a mandatory rule in marriage since in Matthew 19:11,12, Jesus said that Eunuchs can get married.

God in the beginning created MAN and WOMAN.
But God created no more variations after that, No more men or women were created!


In the beginning, The main Goal was to populate this earth! Hence, for this cause, God Himself, allowed INCEST to achieve this, but changed his design, when more people were there on the earth!

This could be True for his Creation of gays and Lesbians... many gays and lesbians adopt unwanted children and raise them as their own. So, they still have a purpose in Child rearing. 

Hebrews 13:4 Again says that marriage is honorable to ALL!!!

Hence Procreation can not be a mandatory law in marriage since we have Hermaphrodite, Intersex and even some impotent people born that way!
Marriage is based on only LOVE and MUTUAL RESPECT!
Its a UNION of 2 SOULS, which become 1, not a law that states that a union specifically between a man and a woman. Since in the End every believer will be a BRIDE in heaven and Jesus will be the FINAL GROOM!

Love all and accept all...
God loves you all!

Timothy and Corinthians: mistranslation and HOMOSEXUALITY

Most of the Conservative Christians Assume that Homosexuality is listed as one of the sins in the Bible. But most of them do not know that the word HOMOSEXUALITY was not around in Biblical times.

The word Homosexual was first printed in 1869 in a book and was later used in the Standard Version Bible in 1946.


The original Greek word that has been now adopted as meaning homosexual is translated from ARSEN, KOITAI, which literally means "Man, Bed".


This is very vague and could mean many things (male prostitutes, masturbation, etc).
The other Greek word that has been modernly translated to Homosexuals is MALAKOS which literally means "soft".


For 1900 years, Arsenkoites and Malakoi were never translated as Homosexuals. The scripture can not mean now, what it did not mean then...


Lets take a look at the first word "ARSENKOITES" 
Apostle Paul made up this term and didnt give any definition.
Arsenkoites Comes from the word pair that literally means "man-beds".


It was listed only twice in the entire Bible in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 and 1 Timothy 1:9-11 in the context of a vice of sins. 
after Paul, it was only 76 times in non-biblical Greek writings within 2000 years of Greek history...many times in a way that it would be impossible to mean homosexual.
Example: Some do it (arsenkoites) with their own mothers and foster sisters or goddaughters. In fact men even commit arsenkoites with their wives!
(-John, the faster. Patriarch of Constantinople. 575 AD)

If you can commit Arsenkoites with your mother and goddaughters, it Obviously Cannot mean GAY SEX!


But, Many Theologians believe that Arsenokoites Clearly means homosexuals because it was taken directly from Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13!

But they do not tell us that the word pair "arsen"  and "koitai" 37 other Greek Old testament without any possibility of meaning homosexual sex.


Hence due to this, their argument is invalid!


The first English translation of Arsenkoites in the wycliffe Version (1380) states "they that do lechery with men".
That means a person who has an excessive indulgence in sexual activity, not all homosexuals or heterosexuals!


The King James version (1611) Translated it to "abusers of themselves with mankind"


This changed to "sexual perverts" and "Sodomites". (Sodomy is a modern term)


Finally in 1946, The Standard Version changed it to "Homosexual Offenders".

The New Standard Version (1996) recanted their translation ad changed it to "male prostitutes" which culturally seems accurate.
As we know, in Biblical times, Heterosexual men had sex with the Shrine priests to give their sperm as a sacrifice to their Gods.

This DOES NOT describe ALL GAYS AND LESBIANS!


Hence we cannot CLAIM that arsenkoitas definitely means Homosexuals!






Now Lets take a look at the word "Malakos"


malakos is used in the New Testament in Matthew 11:8 and Luke 7:25 to describe "soft" clothing.

It was used only one other time in 1 Corinthians 1:9 in the "vice of sins".


The Wycliffe Translation in 1380 uses the phrase as "lechers against Kind"


Tyndale ( 1525) changed the meaning of malakos to "Weaklings" as in lazy people


King James Version (1611) changed it to effeminate which could be assumed for homosexuals when thinking stereotypically. (remember: Not all GAY men or LESBIANS are  Effeminate)

So, who is always effeminate, if not Gays and Lesbians?


Prepubescent boys are always effeminate!
Boy shrine Prostitutes were used in idol worshiping rituals, so effeminate could mean this form of child molestation.


The New American Version (1941) changed it to "Boy Prostitutes".


The New American Bible (1970) changed it to "Male Prostitutes".


Now many translations have chosen to state "Homosexuals"  in its place. 


Because arsenloitai and malakos have had so many changes in translations, We cannot say in Good conscience that They do definitely mean homosexuals.
Stating otherwise is biblically irresponsible! 
the truth is that "Arsenokoites" mean "man-beds" and "malakos"  means "soft"! 

Homosexuality and Romans 1:26,27

Many Christians believe that the "NEW TESTAMENT" also says that HOMOSEXUALITY is a sin due to ROMANS 1:26,27.
But most Chrsitians fail to see the verse in context!

"for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet"
Lets take a closer look at the verses before 26,27
"To all that be in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints: Grace to you and peace from God our Father, and the Lord Jesus Christ." (Romans 1:7)

HERE... PAUL IS WRITING TO THE ROMANS!
"Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened." (Romans 1:21)

 SOME OF THE ROMANS KNEW GOD, BUT REJECTED HIM
"And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things." (Romans 1: 22)
THEY EXCHANGE GOD FOR IDOLS

"Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:" (Romans 1:24)
BECAUSE OF THEIR LUST IN IDOL WORSHIP, GOD GAVE THEM UP.

"Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen" (Romans 1:25)
THIS SPECIFIC GROUP CHOSE IDOLS OVER GOD!


Till now, we see that Paul is Writing to a specific group of Idol worshiping Romans Who Used to worship God.
NOT GAYS AND LESBIANS


Secondly is a cultural fact that in Biblical times Heterosexual men would have sex with the shrine priests to give their sperm as a sacrifice to their Gods in Idol worshiping.

It says that they "exchanged their natural function and abandoned their natural function."
Exchange = (Greek - metallasso) = "to change" 
Abandon = (Greek - apheimi) = "to give up"


Hence its clear that heterosexuals were acting AGAINST their feelings. They did which was unnatural to their own sexual orientation, which was done for the sake of IDOL WORSHIPING.


"For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:"
For their sin of Idolatry and unclean worship rituals, God gave punished them by handling them to their own Lustful unclean rituals.


"for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:"
Also women performed unconventional sex with MEN, not with women.
Women had anal sex with men.


In other words women changed their natural way of male/female intercourse into unconventional male/female anal intercourse!


"And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, -Males having sex with the SHRINE PRIESTS .
 burned in their lust one toward another; -LUST, Not monogamous loving relationships.
men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."- Men having sex with men (FOR IDOL WORSHIP) which was unnatural for them (since they are HETEROSEXUALS) and in this way they received their punishment from God for their sin of Idol worship and Unclean rituals.


This is against nature because they were all Heterosexuals.
The Greek meaning of Unnatural doesnt mean sinful or immoral or wrong, but Unusual or unconventional!


ROMANS 11:24 States that GOD HIMSELF ACTED UNNATURAL. Hence unnatural can never mean Immoral!


So, The sin that was carried over from the Old Testament was:
1. Adultery
2. Idolatry
3. Bearing false witness (by rejection of the True God)


This incident doesn't describe the modern same-sex monogamous loving relationships.


It speaks of a heterosexual group of people who performed dirty rituals in worship to God, for which God punished them by Giving them permanent attractions towards the same sex.
Hence Romans 1:26,27 are not condemning homosexuality!

Homosexuality and Leviticus verse

Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 seem like that condemn male-to-male sexual acts.

Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination"


Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."


Now If we look at Leviticus 18:22 and give a good thought to it.... It says that "A man Must not lie with a man, As He lies with woman, Its ritually unclean"
If we follow the Kind James Version literally, it simply says that "A man must not lie with a man, as (the same man) would lie with a woman, its an abomination."
In a way this verse from the King James version condemns a man who has sexual intercourse with a man, as he does with a woman. But if we follow this verse, we know that gay men only has sex with men. So no gay man has any sexual attraction towards a woman. so, a gay man never has sexual intercourse with a woman. Hence this particular verse of Leviticus 18:22 doesnt condemn homosexuality, because it says that a man cant lie with the same manner with a man as with a woman.
Hence the modern King James version doesnt condemn homosexual acts between two gay man.

We see that in Leviticus 18, God came and spoke Moses to the CHILDREN of ISRAEL!

God didnt say speak unto the men of Israel, but CHILDREN (Including men, women n children)
so, we can not definitely say that (in this reference) that Verse 22 is only for men...
In a way, It could have forbidden everyone.... Hence,,, we find no specific command for only men.




Now if we go back to original Hebrew scriptures, we see a different fact!
Leviticus 18:22 "Thou shalt not lie with ( שכב Shakab) mankind, as with ( משכב Mishkab) womankind: it is abomination."


Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with ( שכב shakab) mankind, as he lieth with ( משכב Mishkab) a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

The word used for traditional sexual intercourse in Hebrew is "Shekobeth"

This word was not used in Leviticus verse 18:22 or 20:13.

the Hebrew word Mishkab which has been used in these verses to compare to "lieth with a woman" has several definitions and meanings like Lying on the bed, lying on the couch, Bed, sleeping and sometimes for lying down in submission for sex.

It is states 46 times in 44 verses and in those verses it meant a woman submitting for sex to another man. 

The Hebrew word shakab which has been used in reference to "lie with mankind" also has several definitions. This word has been found 213 times in 194 verses. about 100 incidents use this word to man as simply lying down to sleep.

 For example: Genesis 19:4 "But before they lay down (Shakab), the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:"

Joshua 2:8 "And before they were laid down, she came up unto them upon the roof"

51 of the verses use this word in context to "lie down in death". 


52 incidents use this word in context to deceptive coercion which mean Rape or sex by force in modern language. 

Genesis 19:32 "Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father."

Genesis 34:2 "And when Shechem the son of Hamor the Hivite, prince of the country, saw her, he took her, and lay with her, and defiled her."

2 Samuel 13:14 "Howbeit he would not hearken unto her voice: but, being stronger than she, forced her, and lay with her."

So may be the Phrase read like this-

"A man must not force rape another man, just as a woman submits to sex with a man."

                                             OR
"A man must not sleep with another man, on a woman's bed"

                                             OR

"A man must not rest with another man on a woman's bed"  

It doesn't appear to be condemning homosexual sex, but most probably homosexual rape or coercion homosexual sex. 

On the other hand if we look at the King James version of 20:13, take a look at the words carefully:
"If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them."

Here we find a stronger proof that God doesnt condemn sexual acts done between 2 gay men.
the verses says...If a man also lie with mankind, meaning if a MAN ALSO lies with a MAN, as he lieth with a woman, In The SAME WAY, As the SAME MAN lies with a woman....both of them have committed an abomination: Both have committed a Act which is RITUALLY UNCLEAN TO GOD.


Now... Lets a revise the Verse again. It states that 1 man must not lie with another man, as THE SAME MAN lies with a woman.... It never says that a Man must not lie with a woman like other men lies with a woman.


Hence forth.... This verse does not condemn gay sex acts between 2 men... But as per the word ABOMINATION (Hebrew word = Toevah) means something that is Unclean in Idol worship. TOEVAH doesnt mean something wicked or sinful... But it means something that is sin in idol worshiping.

Now, if you are curious enough that why would God say that 1 man cannot have sex with a man, as with a woman. We have to Go back to Leviticus 18:22
If we read the Chapter properly, we see that the chapter is split up into 4 parts:
1. Verses 1-5 are greetings from God to Moses...
2. 6-20 are sexual relationships which are banned by God.
3. 21-24 are rituals banned by God which was done in reference to the worship of MOLECH!

4. 25-30 are description of the people who committed these acts.
Leviticus 18:22 if read with reference to the original context, we see that its closely related to the the Verse 21 which states "And thou shalt not let any of thy seed pass through the fire to Molech, neither shalt thou profane the name of thy God: I am the LORD."

The very next verse states that "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination"


Verse 23 states that "Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion."


It becomes clear when we read the chapter in context, that these verses are referring to the rituals done with the worship of MOLECH!

It is a Cultural fact that in Biblical times, The HETEROSEXUAL men used to have sex with the male shrine prostitutes to give their sperm as a sacrifice to Molech. Male Shrine prostitutes were used as intercessors to Gods like Molech and Baal.

These men were not all gay men... but Heterosexual men who gave their sperm as a sacrifice to Molech. This was unwanted but coerced sex performed to give their sperm to their Gods as their sacrifice. 

Likewise animals like cows n bulls were used for this ritual in a sexual manner. People would have sex with these animals for the same rituals... hence many idols of Biblical times appear as animals like cows or bulls.


This explains why 22-23 appear to forbid male-2-male sex acts n sex with animals due to their links with idolatry.

(Notice the same idol worshiping can be seen in Romans 1)

Hence its clear that Leviticus 18:22 is not forbidding same sex monogamous love relationships... But Leviticus 20:13 forbids the CHILDREN of Israel not to pass their sperm/ children to Molech.

When we read these verses in context, we see that this verses doesnt condemn consensual male-to-male sex acts... But they do Condemn:
1. HOMOSEXUAL SEX WITHIN IDOL WORSHIP.
2. HOMOSEXUAL SEX WITHIN PROSTITUTION
3. HOMOSEXUAL RAPE
4. COERCED HOMOSEXUAL SEX


Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 is Not about concerning Life-long loving monogamous same-sex relationships Or same-sex marriage.
Love (Whether gay or straight) can NEVER be called an ABOMINATION BY GOD!

Sodom and Same-sex relationships

Most of the conservative Christians Think that they know the whole story of Sodom! According to most Christians, the story goes-
Sodom was a whole city of Homosexuals and they wanted to have sex with the men that came unto Lot's house. For this reason God destroyed Sodom with Brimstone and fire because of homosexuality.

OR DID HE?


Lest take another look at this story.
Firstly, we see that the people who came to lots House were not human, But heavenly beings or Angels.

Genesis 19:1 "there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom:".
how can we talk bout homosexuality, when they were not male, But angels.
And the men of Sodom, wanted to have sex with Angels. Sex with any heavenly beings including angels is indeed sinful!
Jude 1:7 "Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

Strangle flesh means Not of the same class or level! two men are of course of the same level and class.


Secondly the men of Sodom wanted non-consensual sex.
Genesis 19:4,5 "But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them."
This was not sex, But attempted gang RAPE! In those time, heterosexual men would rape foreigners as sign of Power and domination. (kinda like prison rape)
This, in no way describes long-life committed same-sex relationships.
After lot refused to hand over the ANGELS to the men of Sodom, they threatened him with VIOLENCE.

Genesis 19:9 "And they said, Stand back. And they said again, This one fellow came in to sojourn, and he will needs be a judge: now will we deal worse with thee, than with them."
Dealing worse clearly means a harsher punishment, Not friendly sex.


Thirdly, the attempted RAPE of the ANGELS took place after God had already Decided to destroy the city in Genesis 19.
So it couldn't have been because of the story that God destroyed Sodom. If we really want to know the story of Sodom, God gives us the answer in Ezekiel 16:48,49
Ezekiel 16:48,49 "As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters. Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy."
So The sin of Sodom was Pride, Gluttony, sloth and greed! this verse gives no mention of homosexuality.

Hence, due to the Three Biblical facts, we can conclude by saying that "SODOM was not destroyed due to HOMOSEXUALITY".
The attempted rape isn't an example of life-long same sex love.
Hence The story of Sodom Is NOT a prohibition on Homosexuality by God!

Bible and Same sex marriage

Most people think that the verse MATTHEW 19:4-6 proves that Jesus spoke against homosexuality.
"And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." 
First we see that this question was asked by a heterosexual audience.
MATTHEW 19:3 "The Pharisees also came unto him, tempting him, and saying unto him, Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?".
When we read the text carefully, we see that the Pharisees asked Jesus a question about a man and a woman divorcing. They didn't ask Jesus whether two gay men should get married. Jesus answered by saying that a man and a woman must stay committed in marriage.

DUE TO THIS, MATTHEW 19:4-6 IS NOT A PROHIBITION ON GAY MARRIAGES.


JUST BECAUSE THE BIBLE IS SILENT IN SAME SEX MARRIAGE, DOESN'T MEAN THAT JESUS WAS AGAINST SAME-SEX MARRIAGE.


Jesus spoke of marriage again in Matthew 19:11-12, just 5 verses later.
"But he said unto them, All men cannot receive this saying, save they to whom it is given. For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake. He that is able to receive it, let him receive it."

A Eunuch is commonly known as a male with his testicles crushed or removed.
Some theologians also believe that the term eunuch was referred to homosexual men because they were males without any sexual desires to woman.
Otherwise Jesus's way of saying "which were so born from their mother’s womb" would be talking about only a handful of men who are formed deformed without testicles.
Other believe Jesus was talking about impotent men.
Either way its not a command of God that a MAN should MARRY a woman and have children as it was in the law of Moses.

Isaiah 56: 3-5 "Neither let the son of the stranger, that hath joined himself to the LORD, speak, saying, The LORD hath utterly separated me from his people: neither let the eunuch say, Behold, I am a dry tree. For thus saith the LORD unto the eunuchs that keep my Sabbaths, and choose the things that please me, and take hold of my covenant; Even unto them will I give in mine house and within my walls a place and a name better than of sons and of daughters: I will give them an everlasting name, that shall not be cut off."

Hence God recognizes those, who feel cast out and take everyone in his lovin arms those who believe in Him and turn towards him.


Romans 8:1 "THERE is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit."
So love between two people, irrespective of gender, must be of heart! Not only of flesh!


Acts 10:15 "And the voice spake unto him again the second time, What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common."
Acts 10:28 "but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean"
What God has cleansed, No man or woman must call them unholy.

Jesus also stated many facts about marriages.
Some of his following teachings about marriage are:-
Matthew 22:30 "For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven."
Marriage is not recognized or performed in heaven....


Galatians 3:28 "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."
We are not separated by gender in the eyes of God! But We will live in Jesus Christ.


Hebrews 13:4 "Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge."
Everyone is worthy of marriage! But the adulterers will be judged by God.


Revelation 19:1 states that In heaven we (believers of Jesus christ) will be brides and Jesus will be the final groom, and that will be the the FINAL WEDDING!


"Let us rejoice and be glad and give the glory to Him, for the marriage of the Lamb [Jesus] has come and His bride has made herself ready." It was given to her to clothe herself in fine linen, bright and clean; for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints. (Revelation 19:8)

So, In heaven Sexual orientation is not important in heaven. For every believer of Jesus Christ will be His Bride.

Earthly marriage is a blueprint of God's marriage in Heaven.

Marriage is a long-life commitment of Love, Trust, honor and faith!

BOTH FOR HOMOSEXUALS AND HETEROSEXUALS!

Divorce is only allowed if one commits adultery!

We become divorced from Jesus when We don't believe in Him as our savior. 

Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."

God knows our emotions. He will never judge you for your homosexuality, but for how Christ like you have been.

ITS NOT ABOUT WHO YOU LOVE, BUT HOW YOU LOVE.

If we add up all the commands of Jesus and God, its sums up to "LOVE OTHERS AS YOU LOVE YOURSELF".

Romans 13:9 "Let love be without dissimulation. Abhor that which is evil; cleave to that which is good."

Spread the message of LOVE, Not hate! 
God Bless You all!